steve, you wanted to get in there? >> yeah, let me be the bull here for a minute. we talk auld time about the energy sector and it's not just the energy sector, we've had a mini renaissance in manufacturing in this country, in transportation because of the fact the energy prices are falling and makes the american much more competitive at the margin. i think 2013 is going to see continued declines in energy prices. that's like a tax cut for the american consumer, paul. >> but, paul, the thing we haven't mentioned here is unemployment. we've had high unemployment for four years which means a lot of people out of jobs. we would need a tremendously bullish economy and i'm saying like 4%, to produce enough jobs, it would take a decade to get back to where we were before this recession. >> paul: right, sure, no question about it. >> we just need to do whatever we can to allow economic growth in this country. but declining energy prices are not necessarily good for energy production. because at some point, energy producers are going to say the price is too low and to miti